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    Discussion in 'Calculations' started by catcity, Dec 4, 2018.

    1. catcity

      catcity New Member

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      I can deliver 6700ft/lb to a 600mmdia drive wheel. I would like to gear this wheel up from 6rpm to 1000rpm. Before I build this machine what Hp/Kw can be expected at the 1000rpm shaft on a direct drive?. Or is there a formula for loss in gearing up?
       
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      john12 Well-Known Member EngineeringClicks Expert

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      direct drive efficiency 98%
      But you will definitely use the reduction gear, so you need to multiply this by the efficiency of your gearbox and the efficiency of the electric motor, then as a result you will receive a correction factor for the all of the mechanism.

      You will also have wheel bearing losses, but these are very small values that can be neglected.
       
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      Thanks John12, that site gave me the information I needed, basically if I gear it up at 4:1 It will reduce the input to a quarter each time, keep going and there would be nothing left, thanks for your interest GoodCat.
       
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      john12 Well-Known Member EngineeringClicks Expert

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      So if you if you go 6x4= 24... x4 = 96... x4 = 386... x4 = 1536rpm.

      So you have to gear up by 4:1 four times, so I guess your power would be reduced by the same? So that's... 26ft/lb?
      I'm not really sure what that is in Metric, can you do anything useful with that?

      You might be able to gear up with a greater ratio though, then you reduce the steps?


      Also, you might find this video interesting, just as a related thing :
       
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      Thanks John12, I didn't know that stuff existed, you are right about the big loss at the end, and that has put that my gravity motor in the shelf for a while
       

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